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Digithe Joined: 24 Aug 2003 Posts: 884 | Posted: Mon Dec 19, 2005 9:24 pm Well, last time I read it, it had something about him being able to speak three languages all of a sudden. That beastly transformation thing is interesting... primarily because it isn't mentioned in your character's description at all. If it were for the Teltreon server I'd be much more inclined to allow it, but as it is I'm still... hesitant, uneasy. The whole "magical artifact" just doesn't seem to go with Vampires, in my mind. Witches, ala Orbo, or general fantasy, ala Teltreon, definately. But vampires...
Alucard can have those dogs come out of him because it's a summon of a "familiar" -- basically a creature (or a person) that he's bound into his service. It's... not really the same as the mask at all. I still don't like the tongues. Three? I guess if we allow this "beastly transformation" then it would make sense there, but why not have just one in his "second" form? If they just give him the ability to speak, why three? And... even if you say having three tongues "doesn't make it difficult" or whatever, just think about it. Close your mouth and put your tongue as far down in your mouth as you can go. Could you *really* fit two more of those and not sufficate? As for telepathy... Dhampir don't exist in Hellsing, so I can't say there and it didn't seem like D could in Bloodlust (though it didn't seem like *any* vampires did, unless you count Carmella's illusion!) so... I'm inclined to say no, although that would be an easy solution. One possibility is that you could be 3/4 vampire -- ie: dhampir mother/father, full vampire father/mother. This would be be extremely unlikely, but... still possible. We'll have to talk more, though, if you decide to opt for that one. |
| Odakira Joined: 9 Jul 2005 Posts: 412 | Posted: Mon Dec 19, 2005 9:41 pm If you read the character profile again, you will see that there is no mention of him gaining three languages. Only the tongues.
As for the transformation, I didn't think it would needed to be in the physical description, considering that isn't his natural form. But if you would like me to put it into the description, I will. Then again, we're still quarreling over this matter of the mask, so if it goes through, I'll put it in the description. If not, the char's description will most definitely be changed. :P I didn't say it was exactly like Alucard's dogs, but that the mask kind of serves a purpose to him. Giving him armor and power, as Alucard's dog form would.. well, shred things to pieces XD Like a mutual thing. As for the tongue's sizes, they don't all have to be the same size. Let's say the tongues add up to the same size as one tongue whole? Either way I would have put it, he would still have three tongues. :P If needed to be clarified in the physical description, I will fix that if needed. I dunno about the 3/4's vampire blood. I think just half should be good enough. *shrug* |
Asai Joined: 24 Aug 2003 Posts: 638 | Posted: Tue Dec 20, 2005 8:30 am [quote:92e6fa2974="Odakira"]If you read the character profile again, you will see that there is no mention of him gaining three languages. Only the tongues.[/quote:92e6fa2974]
yes, see, the problem with the languages is that it WAS there, and then you edited it out after we called you on it. We are not blind or stupid, everytime you edit your post it appears at the bottom of the post. If you've taken it out, that's fine, but don't lie to us about it. Then the thing is, if you have three tongues, what exactly is the point? One tongue works just a well as three if it's just there. The tongues as spears thing seems rather ineffective for a beast/monster. If you are a monster of some strange deformity or whatnot, just use claws and jaws or something, the tongue would only shoot out straight and be awkward if it missed, even if it hit, too. Personally, it would be far better to take the 3/4 idea, because you live longer, have slightly better powers, and can keep the no tongue and use telepathy, but that's your own choice. |
| Eshe Joined: 14 Nov 2003 Posts: 485 | Posted: Tue Dec 20, 2005 3:06 pm Yes well the thing is, Arucard's dogs are seperate entities (sort of) from him; not magic relics. I, personally, find the mask an irritating thought, and don't think it has any place in the role play. And yes, you did indeed include the thing abou the languages because Dan had mentioned it quite some time ago.
I agree with Asai about the attacking with your tongue thing. If you've seen Orochimaru fight with his tongue in Naruto, you'd see how Tsunade freaking grabbed it and swung him around like a dog pwns a rag doll. That and a sword would *PROBABLY* be far more accruate (and easier). And the three tongues thing.. useless... I'm goign to say keep ONE, because if all together they're the same size as ONE tongue, then just have *one*. Giving him three tongues is some strange attempt to make him look cool; stick with one. |
| Odakira Joined: 9 Jul 2005 Posts: 412 | Posted: Tue Dec 20, 2005 11:34 pm [quote:f25a593ebe="Asai"]
yes, see, the problem with the languages is that it WAS there, and then you edited it out after we called you on it. We are not blind or stupid, everytime you edit your post it appears at the bottom of the post. If you've taken it out, that's fine, but don't lie to us about it. Then the thing is, if you have three tongues, what exactly is the point? One tongue works just a well as three if it's just there. The tongues as spears thing seems rather ineffective for a beast/monster. If you are a monster of some strange deformity or whatnot, just use claws and jaws or something, the tongue would only shoot out straight and be awkward if it missed, even if it hit, too. Personally, it would be far better to take the 3/4 idea, because you live longer, have slightly better powers, and can keep the no tongue and use telepathy, but that's your own choice.[/quote:f25a593ebe] Wait a damn minute. I didn't edit that out at all. If I did, I'm sure the Admins do have records of the posts, when they are edited, and what is edited out or in. If you can find it, then I'm wrong, but till then, I'm still saying that I never put it in there. I'm not lying. Just because Dan mentions it doesn't always mean it is the truth. He could of misread something, just a possibility. And I can prove it to you even if you looked through the logs/history, or whatever. My link to the image of my character had been moved on deviantart, so I had to get the new link to upload the image. The new one is from deviantart, but it is the first preview image of the piece that you click to gain the full-view (thus the change in it's size). That's edit number one. Edit number two was made when you pointed out my mistake on the dunpeal's mother and father (who was the vampire). That was my second edit. And another thing, my first edit was made before everyone decided to talk about my character for the roleplay. So, if I 'did' happen to edit it out, why is it a problem now if it's already fixed? You're an admin, so check it for yourself before you accuse me of such nonsense. Now, about Kristin's comment about the sword. Yes it may be more accurate, but it wouldn't have the distance. And the three tongues is not about making him "look cool", because if I wanted him to be "cool", I'd give him the three tongues to begin with, and just toss out the mask. Another thing, if you look into the profile, he doesn't wear it often, so again, If I wanted him to "look cool", I'd make him the wear the mask all the time. But I don't. And note to Asai/Administrators: Figure up this crap about the languages in my recents edits and history. The whole language thing needs to end. -.- **ADD ON As further proof to provide to the admins, take a look at the character profile I had created in Gaiaonline. Delete PostPosted: Tue Dec 13, 2005 5:57 pm Odakira View Odakira's ProfileSend Odakira\ a PMTrade with OdakiraVisit posters websiteAIM AddressYahoo MessengerMSN Messenger Name: Odakira Romulux Age: 723 Title: Raven Whitewing Hair: Jet Black Eyes: Fiery Red Physical Description: Odakira seems to tower over all that dare get near his presence. Being 6 ft. 7 inches tall, this would be obvious. Seemingly handsome in his appearance, Odakira has no tongue. Having an athletic build to his body as well, none have ever comprehended, or experienced, his power in physical displays. Having the attribute to change within something rather demonic, Odakira is able to use the Relic, Mask of Talona, at his will to transform. Personality: Odakira is an intellectual character. His silence has always proven charming to those of the other sex, and respectable amongst others. His thoughts always remained isolated within the depths of his mind, but would prove themselves through his actions, for he is mostly up front about them. History: Born within the noble grounds of Lea Monde, France, he had a troublesome time dealing with communication, he took a liking to the local libraries. The libraries being a quiet haven and resource of knowledge. It was a short period of time before he had read every book within all the libraries of Lea Monde. This gave him the intelligence he has today. Odakira's father and mother died both a tragic death. His father was stoned by the locals, for they believed him to be using the 'Black Arts of Witchcraft'. His mother came in an attempt to rescue her father, but an undercover vampire hunter killed her in her attempt. Forced to run off into the woods, Odakira kept out of contact with humans for long periods of time. The only times he met them were to quench his thirst for blood. Forty years had passed when Odakira came into contact with something of mythical power. Refuging within a cave, something caught the young vampire's attention. Not by sight or sound, but in his mind he knew something was there. Deep within the cave, resided a mask that seemed to be made of some blackish crystal. Odakira could feel the power almost reach out from the mask and pull him into it. Falling into the mask's lament of a master (as though it would seem), Odakira adorned the facial apparel. Without knowing so, a small transformation (almost as if a gift from the mask itself) came upon the vampire, and gave him not one, but three tongues. With this, Odakira could finally speak, and the tongues did not give much a problem with being concealed in his mouth. Oddly, the Vampire was never able to accomplish telepathic messaging to others of his kind. Equipment/Apparel: Odakira wields a sword of unknown origin, for it was created in a interdimensional plane of darkness. Supposedly a world where vampire's can exist without threat of humankind. The material of this weapon has proven to be unshatterable and cursed. Usually adorned in white, Odakira has been wearing black as troublesome matters plague his mind. -------------------------- This profile was created on December 13th. This was before I had even made my second edit on December 19th, when Asai brought up the problem of the mother/father in the Bio. Not to mention it was created before Dan brought up the three languages (which was on the 18th). The only changes made is the name, and some other things. If still not believable, I can save the HTML document and sent it to the admins. Gaia uses phpBB forums as well, and surely they would have when edits are made, and they would show if I had made any (which I haven't, but that's for you to see if needed). I want to know the date of the first edit, and be honest about it as I am trying to be now. Oh, and just one more thing... What three languages did I list? I'm sure I would have put them down, and surely Dan would know them. I wouldn't just put in the description, "He speaks three languages." That would just be... well, you can figure that out yourself. |
| Eshe Joined: 14 Nov 2003 Posts: 485 | Posted: Wed Dec 21, 2005 6:33 am Martin, it was there, I saw it. You edited your character description after Dan inquried about it. If you lie to us again you will be temporarily banned.
As for that GaiaOnline description... useless. I don't think it proved anything, really, as I have no idea or really care for what it is. When Dan gets the chance he can probably check it, but we've never had to go back and check the databases before. For the languages, I guess we can just drop it. Personally I don't care, but I just really think 'three tongues' is an extremely lame idea, and alltogether useless. If he doesn't wear the mask 'all the time', then tell me what USE those freaking tongues have. And I don't know what you mean by 'figure it up'... I've never heard that phrase. I think you mean 'figure out'... |
| Odakira Joined: 9 Jul 2005 Posts: 412 | Posted: Wed Dec 21, 2005 8:02 am Look, don't start acting like a jerk again. I'm not lying about the damn thing, so don't say I am. If I had edited during the Dan's inquiry to it, there would be THREE edit notices (me uploading the image almost a week ago, Dan's inquiry, then Asai's pointing out of the mother and father deal). My GaiaOnline profile does prove a bit, considering it is a simple copy and paste from my Sieg profile here, only except I was too lazy to write up a new profile for Odakira (on Gaia). That, and only a few changes were made, like I mentioned before. Even then, I did not see anything (let alone TYPE anything) about languages. And if I did see something like that, I'm sure I've would have indicated what languages were in the profile as well as changed my profile here. And even then, if I had changed my profile, it would STILL be before Dan's inquiry of the languages (which would not be there). ANd I'm not dropping the languages subject. I'm being called a liar that you guys HAVEN'T even proved to me for being, and if I continue to resist, I'm going to get temporarily banned. If this isn't some stupid way of dealing with this, then I don't know what it would be, considering you haven't proved to me that I said that, let alone show me exactly what I typed, or even check the databases!! I think you just want to shut me up so I don't prove you wrong, or because you don't want to go through the trouble all of this, but then again, you're still calling me a liar. So until Dan does go through them databases and proves me wrong, then you can ban me. I'm wanting to see the answers for myself because I know you're going to be wrong. And if you ban me, that would be pretty uncivil considering you never showed me proof on something I supposedly did.
You already know the uses of the mask, I've listed them two or three times now. Just look back, I'm too lazy to type up the reasons again. Oh, and I never said 'figure it up', just "Figure up" :P Not saying it is correct or anything in grammar or whatever, just quoting myself on what I did say. |
| Eshe Joined: 14 Nov 2003 Posts: 485 | Posted: Wed Dec 21, 2005 9:34 am Someone needs to chill out.
I think that if the three admins all agree that we saw something, then it's pretty obvious that it was there at some point. Again, there's not much we can do right now, because we can't access the database until Dan has the free time to do so. And for your information, GaiaOnline and Silverhearts don' nessecarily run on the exact same BBS, so don' tell us what we are and are not capable of doing. Also, if we find reason to ban you, we can and will. You can't tell us what to do and what not to do. Honestly, you already have a character on Blood Rain so I don't see why you have to waste time whining about not getting your character approved when you already have a perfectly good character already present on the server. And I'll reiterate that I still believe the mask to be completely useless, seeing as how three tongues do absolutely NOTHING; except give you a lisp :P As for what the mask 'does'... ALL it does is give you tongues and supposedly bring dead people back to life... still, alltogether useless, considering that you could do the same without such a lame item by biting people and turning them into ghouls. |
| Odakira Joined: 9 Jul 2005 Posts: 412 | Posted: Wed Dec 21, 2005 12:54 pm Well, whenever Dan checks the database, we'll find out. And didn't tell you that 'Gaia does exactly what these boards can do', I was just stating that they show when edits are made as well, and that none of them have been made since I posted my profile up. I did not say what you are capable of doing in anyway as to what the phpBB boards do (ex. YOU CANT DO THAT!! or something of the sort).
Whining? Excuse me, but after about a week or so of having the character's profile up, I asked if the character was going to get checked. If it wasn't, I was going to take it down. But Asai replied that you all were still contemplating what would become of this character's approval. And if you haven't noticed, I'm answering the admins questions. As for the 'whining', that would probably be based upon this 'lie about the languages' that was fabricated from Asai, and me arguing against it. And the mask isn't useless. It DOES at least show how the ghouls that attacked Helen gained they symbols on their foreheads. And if it's such a big deal that the mask gives him three tongues, fine, I'll give him one. But I'm not backing down that he gain three during his beast form, for they can be used as weapons. Oh, and again, another use for the tongue(s)is that it/they give(s) him the ability to talk. Helen and the other human characters (as well as vampire) would NOT be able to communicate with him. Unless he wrote everything down on a piece of paper, or played charades with them or something. I know Dunpeal can grow fangs and suck blood, but I've never heard (or played a game) where one could create them from their victims. So I wouldn't know if one could do so or not... That's another reason why the mask is a key factor to the creation of the 'Talona ghoul army'. As for playing two characters and such... SO? You play two characters as well in the same RP. That, and no one else seems to be wanting to play a bad guy, so I'm giving you one that I'm willing to play. Heck, and if you guys don't like that, I could even let YOU (or any of the other admins) play Sieg! The whole point of this character is to get the story moving along on the subject of this Talona Cult that Asai brought up in the RP some time ago. If he wants to continue this side-story (or main plot of the story), he can use Sieg if he wants. Or create another character of his own to play this role. |
| Digithe Joined: 24 Aug 2003 Posts: 884 | Posted: Wed Dec 21, 2005 2:54 pm Okay, Martin, for the record, you ARE whining. Nothing in your last post several posts were answering a question. As for the thing with languages, it was not fabricated by Asai. *All three* of us saw it, I think that's a bit more proof than you saying it wasn't there. Secondly, the database does not keep track of old posts -- if it did, that would be an incredible waste of space. Third, it does not always update the ticker properly. Fourth, you're the one who wanted us to drop the thing about the languages, so you'd bloody well be ready to do so yourself. Otherwise, we have every right to keep going on about it.
Now, for the tongue. We already responded to your claim that it could be used as a weapon. Sure, it's possible, but it's extremely ineffective. It's accuracy would be poor, as Boots explained, and it would give enemies a huge opening to beat your ass down with your own tongue, as Kristin explained. If your enemies can beat you up with it, it's not an effective weapon. As for the mask, it *is* fairly useless. If you went with my generous (in that it would be EXTREMELY rare for such a thing to occur) suggestion that he be 3/4 vampire, then he would *probably* be able to create ghouls. I say probably because I haven't discussed this with the other admins, and they'd have to give it their "okay." Again, as has been said about three tongues, one is just as good, or perhaps even better -- especially when, as you say, the size of the three tongues adds up to the size of just one. Why don't you just give him a tongue from birth? Or, if you really want to be tongueless, then go with the 3/4 option. That way, you can use telepathy. To conclude, I would like to state, for the record, that basically *nothing* in this post is new news. It's basically all been stated before, but you don't seem to have understood or noticed it, so hopefully my restating it in one nice little bundle of "THIS MIGHT JUST FIX YOUR CHARACTER" joy will help. Have a good day, -The Administration |
| Asai Joined: 24 Aug 2003 Posts: 638 | Posted: Wed Dec 21, 2005 3:31 pm A few things I'd like to add to the above, among those my surprise at thinking that we even want to use your character.
How dare you? Fabricated? Either your memory is worse than you believe, or you are simply an amazing liar. In your original post, you stated that the mask gave him three tongues, each of which allowed him to speak a different language. You never specified which ones. None of us are able to pull up a copy of it because it's been edited out of existence. As for the problem with two characters, here's the thing: I don't recall saying that you couldn't have two characters, Eshe was saying that you shouldn't worry so much about this character since you have one already. ANYONE can try to add a second character for story plot, you just are arguing with us and not doing things to HELP your bio. What you've done so far, as far as I can tell, anyhow, is simply pretend that one thing we had a problem with didn't exist. All you have to do, like any other person on the forum, is accept the constructive criticism and fix the things in your character that are impossible or do not exactly work. Or, you could try to reach a middle ground with us, which is what I generally do if I think I have a good idea but the other admins disagree. You are being overly aggressive when you have no need to be. And another thing: you forget that we talk to each other in school, and had a hell of a long time talking about this character and the mask before we ever posted any problems with it, OK? |
| Odakira Joined: 9 Jul 2005 Posts: 412 | Posted: Wed Dec 21, 2005 5:31 pm Dan. Fighting back something coming at you that was made up is not whining. It's fighting back. Besides that, if you took a look at my post, I said the whining is us arguing from the whole 'lie' brought up anyway. Read before you restate things. All of you three seeing the languages thing does NOT mean it was there! You guys always meet up at school and talk about it. How do I know you guys didn't come up with this just to piss me off? It could be a possibility. Are you sure this database can't keep track of old posts? That, or at least keep a log of when edit dates were made? And when I brought down my posts that one day, Kristin told me to put them back up or you and her would put them back up. If that's true, then you can. If not, then she was just pulling my string. I know the counter for the edits doesn't work right. I've noticed it myself. It seems that after about an half hour of a post you can edit things and it won't bring up an edit count. But after that, it will count it. Even if that was true, it still wouldn't prove anything. My first edit was to re-upload the image for my character (and that was like week or so ago), and the second to fix the father/mother thing. IF there was a language thing on the profile, I'm sure I would have listed whatever languages he could speak (plus, I'd probably make them up just for the heck of it, considering the mask is a relic and could give him the ability to speak some demonical nonsense or whatever) Or have deleted them or fixed that the day Dan brought it up so it would be out of the way. I mean, wtf, why would I do just now? What would be the point of it? When I said I wanted the language thing to end that's because thats all you guys were stuck on for 3 or 4 days, and there was nothing about languages up there at all!!! One question for you, why didn't you (or Asai, or Eshe) ask or bring up the languages thing to begin with? The only thing brought to me at first was the age. Another thing, when Dan brought up the languages, I said that there was no thing about languages up there. Everyone saw this, why didn't they point it out within the first day I said that? Well, because it was NEVER THERE TO BEGIN WITH! Now, as for the tongue weapon subject, again 'Read before restating', I don't care obviously if the tongues are a weakness. They have distance to them. Thats why the character haves them. He's a bad guy, he's going to lose(?), so why not give the good guys something to beat him with if he is hard enough in his regular form? And AGAIN, I stated in a previous post that he would have one tongue while wearing the mask, then three during transformation. For someone who restates things, you're off by a couple days.
Now, for Asai. Two edits. One a week or so ago, and one on the 19th. Now, my first edit was made to upload the image, and I do distinctively and clearly remember having NO ADMINS discussing my character at the moment. If I did edit it out then, then why would Dan bring up languages in his first post? So, theres one edit down. Second edit, to clear up the mother/father thing you brought up. Now, like you had accused me of cleaning out languages when I was called on it, that would mean I would have done it as soon as I read Dan bringing it up. WRONG. Take a look at the time Dan posted that up, then go back and take a look at the second edit's time. There was like 23 and a half hour gap. And I even posted within then. If I did edit it out from that time, there would most definitely be 3 EDIT COUNTS. But there isn't. Now, if there WAS a thing about languages up there, I would of at least thanked Dan for pointing it out and have fixed it. But there was no language thing, so there was nothing for me to fix! Heck, the only other person who had seen the profile when it was first up was Melia, and she would know if she saw a language thing or not. Have you even considered asking her? And if you did already, I want her to answer for herself if she is willing to. Anyways, I didn't say anything about you saying that I couldn't have two characters Asai. And it seems that we're arguing over PHYSICAL DESCRIPTION more than BIO. As for being aggressive, I find that I need to be. I'm being called a liar by three people who can't even show me proof, let alone prove to me that something was supposedly there. The only thing they can say is 'We saw it', and that's it. Again, I'm willing to show my profile on Gaia to any of you (which would be a good thing, considering it was made before the whole ordeal about the languages was brought up, and considering it has NEVER BEEN EDITED SINCE IT WAS PUT UP!!) to further prove my standing in this debate. As for getting TO a middle-ground, that's a definite disagreement on my side as well. And big deal if you talk with each other after school. Nothing is being solved fairly, so what do I gain from it? |
| Eshe Joined: 14 Nov 2003 Posts: 485 | Posted: Wed Dec 21, 2005 6:51 pm I'm not even going to bother reading that post, because about 90% of it is whining... But I don't think it's in any of our natures to go and make something up like that. WHY would we even feel like pissing you off? You seem to get pissed off over everything on this forum. As for the old posts, you CAN'T get it back because it's been edited, ok? You need to chill the fuck out and stop strangling us for evidence. I think that if 3 out of 4 people saw it, that's more than enough to prove it was there.
As for thanking Dan when the languages stuff was there... no you wouldn't. You would've started complaining like you usually do. No one looked/approved your character because we didn't really feel like it, and we didn't really want to at the moment. And by that, I mean we were lazy. Stop whining. If you're SO PISSED OFF about this (and don't deny it; you obviously are pissing your pants about this), then just drop all this crap and let us tell you what to fix. |
| Digithe Joined: 24 Aug 2003 Posts: 884 | Posted: Wed Dec 21, 2005 7:17 pm [quote:f12c3204c5="Odakira"] I said the whining is us arguing from the whole 'lie' brought up anyway[/quote:f12c3204c5]
I could care less what you think is whining. What I'm saying is whining is your WHOLE post. We have been trying to work with you to get your character approved. In fact, I restated many ideas we'd brought up which you summarily ignored; you seem to be fond of mentioning this, and yet you still ignore them I'm reading just fine, you are not. Speaking of which, you do realize that I restated those things on purpose, right? Which quite obviously means I read them, thank you very much. I'm not going to talk about the language thing anymore, because, like Sloane, the more you try to argue the point, the more you ruin your point and hurt your argument. [quote:f12c3204c5="Odakira"] I don't care obviously if the tongues are a weakness. [/quote:f12c3204c5] If you don't care about this character then don't bother with it. That's fine with me, because that's one less thing I have to do. [quote:f12c3204c5="Odakira"]And AGAIN, I stated in a previous post that he would have one tongue while wearing the mask, then three during transformation.[/quote:f12c3204c5] Martin, he *STILL* has three tongues! My point is that you don't *EVER* need three tongues. I would accept it in his beast form, yes I said that, but I still think he doesn't need three tongues. Besides, you didn't say that was the way it would be, it was only an idea you tossed out. [quote:f12c3204c5="Odakira"]And when I brought down my posts that one day, Kristin told me to put them back up or you and her would put them back up. If that's true, then you can. If not, then she was just pulling my string. [/quote:f12c3204c5] Yes, I would have been able to do that -- that is true. But, that is because I had a backup of the database on my computer, which contained your old posts before you deleted them. Sadly, I did not make a backup immediately after you posted your character. Boo hoo. Also, it does keep a log of the edit dates, except it's only the most recent one. Hopefully you've figured out that much. And Martin, you don't have any proof either. You copy and pasting something from Gaia proves nothing, because that can be editted just as easily. But seriously, STOP the debate, and now. If you don't consider our advice and post something intelligent about why you want something about your char to be a certain way, or how you think some idea we offered (see my previous post) would work in your next post, I'm going to have to lock this topic and not approve the character. You're arguing with three of the three admins of this board, and that's not working out too well for you, since it's your word versus our three memories. But either way, that isn't an issue any more. If you simply drop it, as you should, then perhaps you can have a new character to RP with. If not, then you've lost your opportunity to RP Sieg here. I'm sorry, but I don't want a character application turning into a debate. Thank you, -The Administration |
spy_4_hire Joined: 14 Feb 2004 Posts: 568 | Posted: Wed Dec 21, 2005 8:38 pm I'm sorry everyone. I tossed out the idea that the Admins should post what bothered them about Seig, hoping that Martin would willingly fix whatever and then we could move on with the Helsing Rp. Obviously, it failed terribly.
Martin, you claim to be an actor. Then you should know that criticism is bound to happen (one should know about criticism anyway, but especially in show business). The Admins gave you constructive criticism, and asked you to fix a few things on a fictional character. Dan tried to reach some kind of middleground by allowing the three tongues in the "beast form" thingy. Then you threw it back in their faces like any amateur would. Martin plaese look at the list again, and reread some of the suggestions. I was hoping that we could all be somewhat mature about these petty issues (I mean really, we're fighting over tongues!! And masks, but mostly tongues!!!! (I mean really! EW!)) We are all going to have to compromise if this character is ever going to be approved! Your (and I am addressing everyone) arguing is going no where, and it's making everyone upset. Martin if you want suggestions for your character, I would be happy to help you. I know the Admins a little better than you do, and I (kind of) know what they're looking for. |
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